SV32-Why it is easier to learn a whole chapter than it is to learn one verse
Learning many slokas at once is easier than learning one at a time… Don’t believe me…
Check out this episode where we cover:
- the most effective time-tested technique for learning slokas
- why small children should learn many slokas… and why it doesn’t matter if they don’t understand them
- how to use “muscle memory” and “musical patterns” to learn slokas
- why learning many slokas is less stressful than learning one
- what running can teach us about memorizing verses
- when it is helpful to “think” when learning slokas
- an opportunity to try this method with support
- and more…
In this episode we mentioned the following links:
Challenge for Kids to recite all 18 chapters of Bhagavad-gita in 18 days.
One day event on 25th December to spread the glories of Bhagavad-gita all around the world.
Training on all topics related to Krishna consciousness along with community. Class on learning slokas to be added soon.
Class on making Krishna consciousness class engaging and transformative experiences.
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Why it’s easier to learn a whole chapter at once than it is to learn one sloka at a time.[00:00:08] It’s time to get inspired. Join us as we celebrate devotee success stories. Preaching, business, community development, leadership, and personal growth, all from the point of view of Krishna consciousness, to help you to make your life successful. [00:00:32] Hare Krishna, welcome back to Successful Vaisnavas. This is a solo episode today. It’s just me. Krsnendu dasa. And I’m sharing with you, ome thoughts I have about learning slokas. Before we get into that, I’d just like to share about a few things that have been going on. I recently did a workshop called Transforming Classes into Krishna conscious Experiences, and that’s a class which is available. [00:01:17] If you’re an Empower and Preach member, you can find out about that by going to empowerandpreach.com. And if you wanted to just learn more about that class then you can go to successfulvaisnavas.com/experience. So in that training, I looked at different ways we can make our classes more engaging and more transformative for people so that instead of just hearing something and thinking, Oh, that was a nice class. It’s actually creating an experience that allows people to make a difference in their life to actually make changes and actually achieve something. [00:01:56] So a really good example of a transformative Krishna conscious experience is what Gourangi Gandharvika has been doing. I interviewed her in the last episode about her book called Becoming My Devotee, which was activities for children. And recently she’s also been doing some wonderful online challenges through a Facebook group. [00:02:18] She did one for Purusottama Masa. She did one for Kartik. And there’s an opportunity right now that yesterday. She started a Gita challenge, #gitachallenge. And again, she’s doing it through a Facebook group. [00:02:34]Which I’ll link to in the show notes you can actually go to it. I’ll give you a link https://successfulvaisnavas.com/gitachallenge and what she’s basically doing. It’s designed for children and each day, the idea is to recite one chapter of Bhagavad-gita. So within 18 days you can recite the Bhagavad Gita, leaving up to Gita Jayanti, which is the day that I give I Gita was spoken. [00:03:01] There’s also another experience which has coming up, which is the World Gita Day. So this is Vaisesika Prabhu and his team at the BBT. And what they’re looking at doing is making the Bhagavad Gita more. Well known by people around the world and showing to people the relevance of the Bhagavad Gita. So they’re taking this idea of Gita. [00:03:27] Jayanti the appearance of Bhagavad-Gita and they’re making something called world Gita day, and it will be promoted throughout social media and it’ll be a live event. So it’s going to start off in New Zealand. No cause most cool things start in New Zealand. And then it will move through the time zones throughout the day. [00:03:49] So it’s on the 25th of. December, which happens to be Christmas and a very auspicious day in terms of remembering a great soul Jesus Christ. So we’ll be celebrating the Bhagavad Gita on that day, through this World Gita day. So I’ve been working a little bit behind the scenes on this project. I’m very excited about it. [00:04:11]It’s meant to accommodate. Those that do have a background and the culture of Bhagavad Gita for those unit that like to recite the Sanskrit verses and also be a yajna performed. But at the same time, there’ll be talks on Bhagavad Gita explaining the basic principles of it and how you can apply it in your life in the modern times. [00:04:35] And we’re hoping to get some people that may be a little bit famous or well-known to participate. So I’m not quite sure how how successful that has been to find those people for this particular occasion. But the hope is that we can do this every year and make the Bhagavad Gita something that’s [00:04:56] Understood and known all over the world. So that’s another exciting transformative experience. So instead of just the class, it’s a live event, that’s one thing itself that helps to create a special experience. And it’s also going to be very interactive and there’d be a lot of variety and It’ll be a very interesting in something new, it’ll be a new kind of experience for us. [00:05:24]So yeah, that was just a little bit about the Transforming Classes into Krishna Conscious Experiences , which is at https://successfulvaishnavas.com/experience. And. I’ve just given a couple of examples. Gourangi’s Gita Challenge. You can find it at https://successfulvaishnavas.com/Gitachallenge and also World Gita Day [00:05:49] And that’s easy. You just go to https://WorldGitaDay.com.
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So today’s topic is about learning and here’s a few interesting ideas that come out of this. Topic. First of all, I’d like to talk about one idea, which is the idea that it’s not really a good idea to memorize like this, because you’re just being like a parrot.[00:06:17] And, you know, especially in Sanskrit, if it’s not your native language, actually, I don’t think Sanskrit as anyone’s native language, but anyhow, you know, you’re just learning the Sanskrit slokas and repeating them without understanding what’s the value. This is one of the arguments that you hear sometimes. [00:06:35] So you know, in particularly I’m working at school, I’m, I’m familiar with primary school and intermediate junior high and so on. And this is an argument that we get sometimes it’s like, let’s just learn one slicker a term. And so the kids can really understand it. So I don’t, I don’t agree with it. I personally feel that if you look at children, they go through different developmental stages. [00:07:03] And when they’re very young, they’re like sponges. They can memorize things like anything and their ability to understand a complicated concepts or philosophical concepts is limited. So therefore I think that it makes a lot of sense. And this is a traditional approach to education as well. Is that when kids are very young, let them memorize a lot and they enjoy it. [00:07:30] You know, it may be a challenge for us as we’re getting older, but when our kids are really young, they soak up like a sponge and they love to learn songs and nursery rhymes and even, you know, times tables. So to take advantage of that time when they’re really young in it’s easy for them as a great time to just kind of cram in the slackers. [00:07:52] Now, of course, we want to give the kids a basic idea what the slackers are about. But it’s when they become older and they develop those capabilities to really analyze and you know try to apply the ideas in their life that these slow cause that they memorized as a young child will be a very great asset to them. [00:08:15] And so even though at the time when they’re memorizing them, they may not really understand them. With a bigger picture in a longer term vision, we can see that those slackers will be of great value as they grow up. This is also another point, which I think is important to mention. And this is also another Attitude, which I’ve noticed is that Sheila had really wanted the children and has movement to Lynn Sanskrit because there’s great value. [00:08:45] And being able to understand the slokas directly from the sand skirt without having to. Depending on the translation. So we can see that propane was very clear in his instructions that in his Gura coolers, in the schools, he wanted the children to learn Sanskrit. So you can see if we have this combination of children learning the slackers and learning the Sanskrit, then it’ll give them a really great foundation for understanding the Bhagavad Gita in particular. [00:09:17] And you know, that she Bhagavatam okay. To being able to understand the principles behind it. You know, the other thing of course, is that if you do learn Sanskrit, it will help you to memorize this locus because immediately as you’re memorizing, it, you’ll have an idea of what the verses mean. So anyway, that’s a little preamble, a little bit of a rant you could say. [00:09:39]About one of my thoughts that, you know, when people say, Oh, what’s the point of learning slow. Cause if you don’t understand it, Well, the thing is that, as I mentioned, when kids are young, it’s a great chance to learn it. And it will be an asset when they grow up later on. And the other aspect is that this is trends in the indoor sound, just like the mantra. [00:10:01] Sheila prope had said that even earth, you don’t understand the mantra. You’ll still get benefit by hearing it in chanting it. Of course when you have the understanding as well, it’s even more powerful, but still these trends in dental sounds have potency on their own, even without our understanding of him. [00:10:22] All right. So with that in mind, and the idea that learning shakers is helpful, whatever age you are, I want to share a method for learning slokas and. I want to present to you that learning a group of slokas together, like a whole chapter is actually easier and more effective than trying to learn one slope a day. [00:10:48] Hmm. Interesting. Right. Because sometimes the argument has given it, as I see it, sometimes the idea is like, Oh, let’s just live in one sloka for a month and we’ll just go over that slicker for the whole month. Why do that? Why Lynn once, like in a month, when you can just as easily or perhaps even more easily, then a whole chapter. [00:11:11] Hm. So the myth, and I’m speaking about as a method that I learned when I was in the , you know, I used to visit there. I used to visit my poem about seven years in a row. I used to go to the MyPal festival and I made friends with boys and the girl who and teachers in the Google. So I picked up from them, the method that they use to Lynch Lakers. [00:11:38] And I even spent time personally staying in the cooler and you know, participating in the programs, along with the students at the time we were learning some slokas from Jeeva go Swami, which. The, you could say the sutras of Sanskrit grammar originally, it was given by I forget his name now. Panini. [00:12:01] Yeah, not the bread, but the original Sanskrit grammar. Very and what do you ever go swam? He did. Is he. Inspired by what Lord Chaitanya had done. And perhaps it’s exactly the same principles. I’m not sure. I imagined that GV goes Swami’s inspiration would have come from Lord Chaitanya where we hear that Lord Chaitanya would teach Sanskrit grammar using all examples of Krishna. [00:12:28] So Jeeva goes, Swami created the Sanskrit grammar, accord hurry, and I’m on Rita via Karen numb. And he was teaching Sanskrit using all examples. From Christian consciousness, for example, we know that in in any language there, vowels and consonants, or maybe in Russia and they only have consonants in no vowels, it seems like, but in general, the idea is that you have Constance and vows and the unique difference. [00:12:58] Between these two is that vowels can exist on their own. E Ooh, Oh, Ooh. A I O L these are vowels and you’ll notice that they exist perfectly well on their own, but the consonance cannot exist without the presence. Of a vow, for example, car now in this sound car, it’s actually the sound, but you can’t actually pronounce it. [00:13:35] And this, he put an R or an E or an Ooh or something else after it. So what Jeeva goes Swami there is he, he explained that the vows are there. . They like Krishna they’re completely independent. They do not depend on anyone else for their existence, their consonants. On the other hand, I called the Vishnu Jenna’s. [00:13:59] These are the devoted, because they fully depend on the issuers or they depend on Krishna for their existence. They cannot exist without Krishna. So in this way, he gives so many examples. Through the teaching of Sanskrit grammar that compares to Christian and consciousness and reinforces the Christian unconscious philosophy. [00:14:24] So anyway, that was a little bit of a tangent. So my original point was that when I was in my , we were learning these slackers from Jeeva Goswami Sanskrit grammar, and Yeah, this also, we were learning parishs Shakta, which are the [00:14:44] but the method that they taught is what I want to share with you today. And you can apply these teachings or these, this method to learning slackers from Bhagavad Gita. From a Sam heater or wherever. So the method is very simple in principle and it goes like this. We start by repeating each word and when it stand in the girl call, it works like this. [00:15:16] The teacher will say the words, the want or the, that word. And the students will listen. And here at the best that they can. And then twice they will repeat that word. So in this way, the teacher can listen and check that the pronunciation is right. If the teacher says a word and then they hear that, you know, the students are not pronouncing it correctly, then the teacher will repeat again to make sure that from the very beginning, the pronunciation is correct. [00:15:54] So this is a, you know, like a quality control mechanism. There’s no point in drilling something and repeating and repeating and repeating if you saying it wrong. So this is how the teachers make sure from the beginning that the pronunciation is correct. And in a very simple explanation or very simple formula, this is done. [00:16:18] You know, for a collection of verses for 10 days. So depending on how much time you can allocate for Lynch Lakers, you know, you might say, okay, well, we’re going to focus on 10 slackers or 20 slackers. I like 20 because the shortest chapters and the Bhagavad Gita chapter 12 and chapter 15 have 20 cycles. [00:16:40] And it doesn’t take very long to repeat them. So for the first 10 days, The teacher will say the slicker, the student will repeat twice. So for example, I, you know, and, you know, in the beginning it might be one word at a time or it could be short phrases. And as you go on, you’ll find that It’s natural that the phrases become longer. [00:17:08] So in the beginning of the students, in the beginning, the students may not be able to. Sort of put together long phrases. So the teacher has to break it down into smaller sections to make it easier to hear and repeat properly, but then as they become familiar, these phrases naturally become longer. So that by the end of the 10 days, you’ll find that you might be reciting a whole, a whole line. [00:17:34] Together rather than just, you know, a few words. So give an example. So the teacher will go in, the students will repeat. I had, you know, , you know, . So repeating twice. It’s also interesting the first time that they’re repeating, it’s kind of like, okay, I’m repeating what I’m hearing. And then the next time you’re saying it again, so that they’re developing what I like to call muscle memory. [00:18:05] And this is An interesting thing about this method. Anyway, I’ll explain the rest of the method and once, and then I’ll go back into some of these principles. So after 10 days, the students are able to, you know, easily repeat a lot of these, you know, easily repeat what the teacher is saying, maybe a whole line at a time. [00:18:26] And they are so familiar with it that they know what the next verse is going to be as well. So they’re already getting into that. Momentum and feeling successful as they go. And it doesn’t require thinking just by hearing, in repeating hearing and repeating, developing the muscle memory. And then after the first 10 days for the next 10 days, the idea is that you’ll take one verse or a section of verses, sorry. [00:18:57] Yeah. You take one verse and repeat it five times. So. In this way, it’s drilling the vis, but you only have to look five times. It’s not like you’re drilling it a hundred times. You know, if you’re learning one slow-cooker at a time and you’re doing one slacker a day, then you’ll drill it and drill and drill it in. [00:19:19] It can get monotonous and boring. But if you just repeat it five times a day and you do that over 10 days, Then it means that you’ve repeated it 50 times in 10 days, but it doesn’t feel like you’ve just been drilling it and drilling it as if you did it all in one day and it’s more effective. I’ll get back to that in a minute. [00:19:39] Yeah. So in the second 10 days, we’re repeating each verse five times. And as we go on, just like in the beginning, we started out by repeating each for each word and it. Extends out to become an one line or maybe even two lines. So in the same way, there’s this natural progression that we’re repeating five times one verse. [00:20:01] And then when we become really good at that, we might put two verses together and repeat that five times. So in this way, we’re developing the the muscle memory, as I say, and we’re also connecting to give these words and verses. Yeah, so just to recap, there are three simple method. You start from the first 10 days, repeating a word or a phrase or a line. [00:20:26]The teacher says at once the students repeat twice and you do that for about 10 days, and then it, 10 days, then you start repeating the whole verse five times. So you do one verse five times go to the next verse five times, five times like this. So this is the basic method. Now you can modify it. And I found when I was teaching classes, as I could see the students were picking it up, then I could accelerate things a little. [00:20:56] So instead of So maybe I wouldn’t wait for a full 10 days before I start doing the repeating five times. We might find that the first few verses that you do, if the kids are picking out really quickly. So then you might, instead of waiting for 10 days, he might say, after five days, you repeat the first five verses five times, and then the rest of it, European you know teachers is in the students repeat. [00:21:21] So you can see, there’s also a difference here that the first 10 days it’s about the teacher speaking, the students repeating and the next 10 days where everyone is saying the slacker together five times. Yeah, and as I say, being quite often, what we’ll do is as we see that the students are very good at pronouncing the sliders, we can start to go straight into the five times repeating For the earlier verses. [00:21:45] And then we can do the repeating part for the later verses, because if you have limited time, you might find it initially, you know, you might only get three 10 slickers, but then as you become familiar, it becomes quicker. And then quite soon you’re up to 20 slickers in the same amount of time. Yeah. So there’s a modification, but these two principles of hearing and repeating twice. [00:22:10] Until it’s until the pronunciation is very clear and then it’s easy to pronounce each of these parts. And then we move on to repeating five times each first. So this is, this is the method. And once you’ve mastered, you know, each first five times then this is what I call emission or mastery. We were really focusing on you like one. [00:22:38] Chapter. And we’re really standing out by making sure we pronounce each word. We know each slow-cooker really well anyway, pieced this like is together. And this is where I find that. We can introduce a little bit of thinking. At least this is the way it works for me. You know, most of the time it’s just muscle memory. [00:22:54] I just repeat, like you might have noticed when you do the domino Rasta com and Cartek when it starts off at the beginning of CareTech you know, you have to read the book and you think, Oh, what versus next? And you might start to develop some cues. Like, ah, at the end of this verse, it has this line and that’s a little bit similar to the first line of the next verse and say, you know how to lead on to the next one, like in dominant us to come. [00:23:20] I think there’s a verse, that’s it? It says something like eat on fame or Cambodian, something like this and in the next vessel, so has eaten something like that. I’m just trying to recall off the top of my head. You know, some of the things that I noticed for myself, like with the domino Mastercam, there were certain sounds or sit words, which. [00:23:41] Would come at the end of one verse and it’ll also come at the beginning of the next verse. And so I’d make these connections, but then after a while, I didn’t need to make those conscious connections because it was just such a natural flow to go from one vest and the next to the next. And let me just share it in the Bhagavad Gita. [00:23:59] I have the same at the same experience. Let me just pull it up on the website over here and I’ll explain outward. I noticed that here. So what I find is really helpful if you are looking to learn slackers and you haven’t got someone to say it and repeat it to you, what you could do is you could record yourself. [00:24:24]In this way. And actually what I’m planning to do is for the members of the empower and preach membership site, I’m going to go through check the 12 because I’ve just re memorize that after a few, quite a few years. And so it’s very fresh in my mind. So what I’m going to be doing is I’m going to break it up into two sections. [00:24:42] I’m going to have one section where I’m saying it. Three times so the student can listen the first time and repeat it with me the next two times. And then I have another section where I’m just going over the whole, each first five times so that we can find, you know, you can follow this method with me and learn. [00:25:00] And 20 days you can learn 20 slackers in a stress free stress, free and fun way. Which is much easier than just trying to say, okay, today, I’m going to invent this one tomorrow. I’m going to learn this to next day. I’m going to learn this three. And you know, like there’s such a mental strain to try to learn one, one verse and one day. [00:25:21] But if you allow yourself 20 days to learn it and you learn them all together, it’s so much easier. So anyhow to give an example from the Bhagavad Gita, and if, if you wanted to follow along what I’m explaining here, If you go to the Vader base.io and go to Bhagavad Gita, chapter 12 at the top of the page, they have this really cool feature and it allows you to select I think you have to click on advanced view first and it works on a phone and on a computer you can select which. [00:25:56] Features you want to see? So for example, if your expert David Nager, he might just want the Dave and agri text and you can read from there, or if you’re practicing a Sanskrit, you could do it that way as well. If you just want the verse text, then you can just unclick everything. So turn off the purport, turn off the translation Tinder after Dave and I agree, turn off the synonyms and just leave the vis text. [00:26:19] So that’s what I usually do when I’m reciting slackers. And then you’ve got a very clean interface. It’s just the verses and you can really easily just read through them without having to, you know, flip pages or scroll past the peer parts and time. So here’s a little tip there. Senior. I’m just wanted to share. [00:26:38] When I was memorizing the Bhagavad Gita, I was pretty good on each fierce. I could recite each fierce. There was a few verses that were a little similar and I had to just use a little bit of mental a little bit of thinking to discriminate. Okay. So this verse follows on in this way and I should be careful not to get mudded up to give an example. [00:26:59] This vis that goes I’ve, my karma, Panama, blah, blah. To me. Sometimes I’d get loaded up with another vest, which the second layers keratome mud yoga, mushy Rita. So then I noticed that in the IBR, say this. It has mud karma and mud. So it’s my karma and my Artem. So in this way, I could remember this, this would ma comes at the beginning of the next two lines and they’re just also helped me to not get mudded up. [00:27:34] I’m sure you’ve had that experience where if you’re a siting slokas you’re going on, and then you start with one verse and you exit only the second half is from another verse. So sometimes it’s good just to notice these distinctions. So the key idea is to use this muscle memory. Then I explained before of just remembering, repeating and getting in the habit that your lips automatically say the right verses. [00:27:59] But when the endings of words are similar, sometimes, you know, the muscle memory gets confused and that’s why it can be quite helpful just to. Look at the verses and notice these patterns. So anyway, another thing that I noticed in this versus for example, in a citizen, this is after being very good at reciting one verse five times to get the linking between the verses to make sure that we include all the verses in the right order. [00:28:27] So in chapter a chapter 12, Ticks seven. It ends my avail. She touches the sun. So my Ava and in the very next verse, that’s with my Avon mana that swear. So it’s noticing this similarity helped me to know exactly what this comes next. So when I finished the verse, that goes my Aveda sheet, my Aveda sheet to change to some my , you know, it makes the connection for me. [00:28:57] And then the end of that verse, it ends and the next verse begins. I tar Cheatham. So this utter sound and the last line is similar to the utter sound in the first line of the next verse. The next one is And then the next one follows a similar pattern. The second to last. Well, the last two lines go, I’d say Yogi, [00:29:28] a BRC an incident the next fists. Sorry. [00:29:36] next FIS. IBSA plus a motto C. So he can see here that. We’ve got this. weird in the second to last line of this nine in the very beginning of ticks, 10 is saying now there’s a logical reason for this in sanscript because Christian is explaining it, do this. If he can’t do this, do that. If he can’t do that, do that. [00:30:00] So it’s. It’s not a coincidence that these versus overlapping like this. But this is just giving you an idea of how it, once you’ve memorized each first, you can look for patterns that linked together the verses, so that if you find that you your muscle memory is leading you astray, sometimes you can just use a little bit of logic. [00:30:20] To help, you know, which versus which, so I found it really interesting process relearning for this this chapter that I more or less listened to before when I was teaching in primary school, about 10 years back, or at least 10 years ago. And so what I would do is I’d just recite it in the verses that I found that I was a little weak and I just repeat them a few times. [00:30:47] Just to refresh the muscle memory for them. And then when I found that I, that there were sitting versus that I couldn’t remember which Fisk would come next, or if I found that my muscle memory would lead me to the wrong verse or whatever, that’s when I started to get these kind of links. So now in my mind, I can, I can quite quickly reference which versus which and which number is which. [00:31:10] Because I know how each fists that’s and as long as I get the first line automatically, the other parts of the Viscount. So yeah, I’m going to create a lot of detail here. I hope you find it interesting and useful. When you got to . So now just going back to the original message that I had is that using this kind of method, it’s easier to learn a how chapter then is to learn one verse at a time. [00:31:36] And I mentioned it earlier, but I’ll just repeat here that. If we try to learn one verse a day, then we’re putting a lot of pressure on herself that I’ve only got this one day to learn this verse. Whereas if we do it in this method, what we’re doing is we’re spreading the load in that we don’t have to memorize anything. [00:31:53] We just have to repeat these verses. And at the end of 20 days, we will have memorized it. We can have that confidence and that long-term vision that’ll happen. And it was making me think about sports. Then it’s the same kind of thing. If you want to become a good runner, because running is a sport that I’m doing mostly these days, it’s quite time efficient for me. [00:32:15] So. You don’t become a great runner by running a marathon today. And, you know, really smashing yourself doing some really hard sprints or something. That’s not going to make you a great runner in one day, but if every day you just go for an easy run half an hour every day, every day, then over time, your fitness increases. [00:32:36] And then you can add on a few more intense sessions. You know, some longer runs some sprints and interval training where you really, you know, make yourself work hard. Those are kind of like the boosters. But the really sense is what you do day to day. Just like with our southerner, we have a minimum 16 rounds every day. [00:32:59] We have a foundation of our spiritual life and then every now and then we might go off to her retreat where we chart 64 rounds a day. You know, or where we read Bhagavad at home all day and we really absorb ourselves in it. And the rest of the time we just read a few verses or, you know, a chapter a day or whatever. [00:33:19] So it’s what you do every day. That really makes the difference. And. If you are already doing that, then by doing some intense sessions, that can be beneficial, but just the intense sessions on their own without the sustained effort is not so strong. So that’s another point as well, that after these 20 days, when you’ve memorized the slacker, then we want to keep it fresh. [00:33:44] So what I think is a good strategy in, I used to do this when I was a teacher. Well, as a teacher, our program worked in weeks, so we would memorize the slackers four out of five days. And then on the fifth day we would review. The versus we’ve done before. So maybe one week we would re refresh the Roma Samita another week, we’ll review chapter 12 of Bhagavad Gita. [00:34:12] And then another day we might re review chapter 15. So just, you know what, even if it’s just once in a month, you repeat the whole slacker, it just refreshes the memory. So we’ve got our intense session. Of, you know, 20 days where we learned the whole chapter and then once a month or once every quarter or whatever, you can refresh it. [00:34:34]All right. So I’ll just explain I’ll just see if I’ve got anything I haven’t covered yet. Yeah. Why is this method effective? So I’ve already explained that it’s a lot less stressful. There’s a lot there’s pressure that I have to learn. This one verse today. I just follow the process and have faith that at the end, I will have you know, memorize the slackers and you don’t have to think it’s not a mental exercise of trying to link things together. [00:35:02] Now I gave you some strategies that I use, you know, kind of on a mental level or logical level, but that’s after I can already recite each of the verses and it’s just helping me to remember. Which first goes with, which and then the more that you practice the versus the less you have to depend on that too. [00:35:20] So it’s not a mental exercise. It’s not mental strain. Oh, what’s an excision. Oh, how does it go? It’s muscle memory, as I say, because your lips are moving and there’s a rhythm and there’s a pattern. And, you know, we naturally will say the next line when we’ve said it many times. Like there’s some jokes that go like that. [00:35:43]I’m trying to remember how they go. He say, when you stand on one leg and go up and down, it’s called hop. And when you take a balloon and you put a pin in it, it goes pop. And when you come up to a green light, what do you do? You go? Right. So you’re naturally because of this pattern you want to say stop. [00:36:05] Even though it doesn’t fit. So this is what we’re doing with these cycles too. We’re developing these patterns that lead us to what a minute we say the slackers without having to think about it becomes automatic, automatic muscle memory. Another thing about it is that it’s audio and not visual. So in order to learn in this way, you don’t need to look at the sliders at all. [00:36:26] You can just remember them. Or from audio, which can be really helpful. And then later on, you know, when you look at the visuals, it can just help to stimulate it. But otherwise, what can happen is we go to say the Sika and then we have to, in our mind was sort of visualizing the words and then we have to kind of like have this extra step in between. [00:36:47] But when you learn directly through this audio and physical muscle memory, it’s much easier. And also it takes away our dependence on the vest. Like we were trying to learn a verse by reading it. We read it and then remember it, read it, remember it. But when we just hear it, it becomes automatic. It’s so much easier. [00:37:05]Yeah. And as I mentioned that, repeating, yeah. So same point, but let me explain it a different way. When you repeat one verse, you know, 50 times in one day, it doesn’t really help you to learn it, but if you repeat it 50 times over 10 days, It’s much more effective. Yeah. I explained it with the example of running and other sports. [00:37:29]Yeah. And another benefit is you learn more slokas. Like I said before that sometimes it’s like, Oh, we’ll just learn one verse a month. You know, we don’t want to stress the kids out too much. We’ll just learn one visit and really not, well, well, why do that? When you can learn 20 verses at once. And it’s also more interesting because as you’re learning these 20, versus like, as a teacher in a class, you know, what I would do is I would, we would do the slokas all together. [00:37:58] And then I’ll explain a little bit about the fist width. And in the next day, we’ll just explain a little bit about the next fierce. And in this way we would. You know, Lynn, the basic gist of what this chapter’s about instead of just having one verse and going over and over that same verse all the time. [00:38:15] So there’s more variety. It makes it more interesting, you know, especially like within one day, imagine you just drilling one verse 50 times and the next stage, really in other Vista, 50 times the same verse, it’s quite monotonous, but if each day you’ve got the quiet, you’ve got all this variety of all these different verses. [00:38:32] It’s just more fun, more interesting. All right. So I think I’ll leave it there. And I hope that I’ve convinced you that it’s easier to learn a whole chapter. Then it is to learn just one verse and And I hope that you will get a little inspiration to try this. And I suggest if you haven’t learned any slackers before a great place to start, there’s the Bhagavad Gita, chapter 12, all the slackers follow the usual meter, the usual musical pattern that we’re familiar with. [00:39:03] And there’s only 20 verses. So that’s a great place to start after that. I would recommend chip the 15. It’s also got 20 verses and it’s got the regular meter in there’s a few verses that also have a, another kind of meter which is very beautiful. And then from there, it’s up to you, whatever you want to memorize, you might want to learn the Isha Punisher. [00:39:24] Well, the Brahma, some heater totally up to you, but I’ve given you a strategy how to implement it. Now, if you wanted to come along with me so to speak and get my help to implement this. As I see it, I’m going to be creating some resources. In the empower and preach membership to help learn festival chapter 12, which I’ve just memorized. [00:39:47] And then we’ll be doing chapter 15 after that, because it’s the next verse and I need to relearn next chapter. So if you’re interested in that, you can just go to empowerandpreach.com and you’ll see everything about that membership. And then when you register or when you log in, you’ll find a link to the You know, the memorize, the chapters challenge or whatever I’m going to call it. [00:40:11] I dunno. Now next week. In our podcast, we’re going to be sharing an interview that I’ve done with Madorie Kadavy DASSI. Now she’s a South African Devonte who spent a lot of time in my poor and now in a lecturer. So she’s got to experience what it’s like living in a community with teens. And we’re going to be talking about the challenges and strategies and principles behind raising teens and Krishna consciousness. [00:40:40] So we spoke a little bit today about the differences between young kids and older kids here. Young kids memorize really easily and older kids, you know, start to develop the capability to think philosophically. And there’s a lot of other differences as well. And some really interesting discussions that we That we had related to raising teens and Krishna consciousness.